rose lore phase 2
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phase 1's post to see where the hell we are, sum up from phase 1: started as ocs for mario fanfiction i acted out on the playground by mself when i was 7, clea and her twin sister rose were separated at birth, clea raised by peach's family as peach's youngest adopted sister, rose raised by bowser??? except bowser was like Evil, like Actually Evil, it wasn't exactly edgey and angsty but had a lot of rar brand material like the twins having to fight each other a few times, rescue missions, rose coping with how she was raised, and the twins having a connection that would tell each other when the other was in danger
eventually i dropped the mario aspect and started just playing around in oc town. i yeeted peach and daisy out of the picture, rose and clea may have remained twins? they were definitely still sisters, princesses of some kingdom. clea was oldest (???) and like Really Serious about caring about her country / ruling it / etc and rose Was Not, like not even Close
part of this comes from the fact mmmMMM let me pull up my notes on some other original fiction i was working on when i was ten, hold on, i was interconnecting this shit like it was the MCU, alright
there were Four Guardians Of The Realm (realm basically just = universe, there were a bunch of interconnected worlds within the realm, including technically like mario and zelda's canon lsmkdflkj but also Every Story I Had Ever Toyed Around With) and rose was one of these four guardians!! the guardians were called Imaginatives becuase their super power was ~imagination~, like so long as they could imagine a thing, they could manifest it into reality!!! usually it was mostly just environmental changes / conjuring absurd shit as if this were a saturday morning cartoon, i don't know what the rules were re: inflicting changes on other creatures
(likely if a creature is sentient you cannot just Imagine them to be something else because their own free will prevents you, but non-sentient shit is fair game) (i definitely was not thinking about it as even an Option tho at the time, so i don't have a concrete reason as to why it didn't workl kmsddfsdf)
ANYWYA rose was one of the four imaginatives, four realm guardians, i'm just gonna start calling them guardians fuck you ANYWAY she was not only one of the four but also the most powerful of the four. like her ability to reshape reality was kind of fucking terrifying. large scale natural disasters if she wanted. etc.
(there wasn't really any lore at the time re: how much you could / couldn't affect, it was just rose was The Most Powerful)
this gave her like??? a superiority complex??? she was fairly convinced she was Better Than Everyone Else which to be fair she could literally destroy anyone with a thought if she wanted, so like, yeah. so she thought she was better than everyone, didn't see why she should care about responsibility (fighting bad guys as her responsibilities of realm guardian was fine tho, becuase kicking bad guy ass was fun and she wanted to do it) (if she stopped wanting to do it she'd stop though) (actually she will, we'll get to that)
so this caused a lot friction between rose and clea??? which is unfortunate but clea was like CARE ABOUT OUR KINGDOM!!! and rose is like WHY I'M THE MOST POWERFUL BEING IN EXISTENCE, I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT, AND I DO NOT WANT TO RULE A TINY LITTLE KINGDOM
(baby rar why wasn't "also i have to protect The Entire Realm not just our kingdom" a point of friction on the table, smh)
so she like runs away from home or some shit?? actually i read some writing and what really happened is My Self Insert showed up and rose was like "lol nice, perfect excuse to ditch everything" and just walked off
also yeah My Self Insert was a thing. like a really. incredible thing which we'll get into later but at the start of it it was just generic self insert character goes on adventures with my favorite oc, Sometimes Through The Mario Universe even though we are complete strangers there
i'll introduce my self insert now: note that at the time of creation they shared my birthname and went by she/her pronouns but i refuse to do either of those things on the internet in front of everyone, so we're going to call them dar (pronounced dare? maybe i should just name them dare? dar being pronounced like rar but with a d works, too, i don't care that much, it's a placeholder name) and their pronouns are they/them
They Were Literally Just Me but a litlte more naive very starry eyed at being able to go on cool adventures. they were destined to be the fourth guardian of the realm (the other two imaginatives / realm guardians were named ema and sophi, sisters...??? who like. Created the core of the realm, i guess) (how rose got to be more powerful than sophi, the little girl who Literally Created A World, i don't know, but, that's probably part of why rose had Issues)
anyway so dar meets up with rose they go on adventures and rose takes dar (who is younger than her by a few years) under her wing as her apprentice who she showed the ropes to Imagination Powers and also Being A Guardian
(at time of conception, rose was like 13, maybe 15, and dar was probably 11 at oldest. but when you're 10 you think that's old as shit. it is not. i would age them up if i were to ever revisit this shit seriously outside of a documentation post)
so yeah that was a thing?? and like i said as time went on rose got More And More superiority complex "no one could ever be as good as me, i am the most poewrful person alive, haha nice" and she became really self rightous, really bitter, refused to take anything seriously or care about things genuinely. yes even dar. rose had five levels of insincerity up at all times and refused to indulge in a genuine relationship or treat dar as more than a child / and god Forbid they ever show signs of maybe being more powerful than her
(i don't remember if that was actually a thing on the table. i think dar came close in terms of power levels but rose was The Strongest, full stop) (dar was massively better at intrapersonal shit though)
anyway as you can see this is like?? highly toxic?? not a great relationship, bound to blow up at some point, and let me tell you It Did,
but before i tell you that it did i have to tell you that not only did this fiction have a self insert
it had two self inserts
i existed as dar within the fiction, and i also existed as the author. Me, The Author, Had A Narrative Role In The plot. rose was aware of me, the author, existing, was aware she existed within a story, and FUCKING HATED IT, she blamed everything on me, The Author, and whined a lot about no one having free will because i, the author, was controlling everything and everyone's actions and everyone's thoughts, usually in terms of preventing character growth going certain directiosn by just Blocking off specific choices as options that characters were Not Allowed to make
understandably rose was mad about this???? it makes sense????? The Author Exists And Controls Everything And Will Not Let Characters Grow Naturally Or How They Want is a valid thing to be salty about???
but holy shit baby rar was on some INCREDIBLE bullshit with the author existing as a character within the narrative, goddamn
anyway so rose hated me the author and also was a generally toxic person who thought the world of herself but also refused to be seious about anything
also here's a quote i have where dar calls rose out
“You may be stronger in terms of power, but emotionally, you’re weak. You bottle up everything inside, afraid that if you let anyone see what you are it will kill you. You’re afraid to let go, afraid to hold on. You’re afraid to be happy, you’re afraid to be sad. The only thing you’re not afraid of is anger and hatred. You call everyone weak because you can easily outmatch them in power in a matter of seconds. But we’re stronger than you. Everyone is. Power doesn’t matter, it’s what’s on the inside that counts.”incredible
((also note that later: dar would also come to hate me, the author. we like had a physical battle, once?? for some reason??? but yeah dar was SO salty and they wanted me to FUCK OFF so bad and part of that hatred was due to A Thing That Happens With Rose, That I'm Getting To))
so eventually rose gets bored of the guardian bullshit and also Fucking Fed Up with dealing with me, the author, and also me, the self insert. dar bores her. world saving bores her. she's tired of doing this and i suppose tired of not having Any Other Options because me, the author, dictates as such.
so rose decides to remove herself from the fiction
she creates a pocket dimension and seals herself off
there's a dramatic friendship breakup scene between her and dar where rose leaves in a fit of dramatics (there's a mirror something that she walks through and hten cracks, clearly i plotted this after playing twilight princess) and dar cries a lot becuase rose was?? their best friend??? and she doesn't care about them anymore??? she keeps insisting it's "the best for everyone" and dar is just very sadly "not for me :(("
and that's the end of phase 2 of rose's lore
dar goes on to
> be really sad / bitter / not coping well with rose leaving
> taking on their own apprentice (her name was star, she was going to be rose's replacement as guardian) (there may have been relationship issues stemming to dar misisng rose, oops)
> EVENTUALLY COME TO HATE ME THE AUTHOR WHO THEY BLAMED FOR WRITING ROSE OUT OF THE STORY WITHOUT GIVING HER THE CHOICE (look, thta's fair, i did tho but i'd created rose to be so toxic - especially since she hated me so much, which is exhausting, to have an oc that fucking loathes you - that she was stressing me out by existing??? so,,)
> the fucking dramatic "my own self insert hated me, and was aware they were a self insert" was incredible though and might be worht exploring again with slightly less toxic set dressings
> like seriously "i hate the author, who i'm a reflection of, for existing becuase they refuse to allow anyone free will" is 1) incredible 2) literally just ywkon
(aera voice) "the kratos was coming from inside the building"
incredible
we'll talk about phase 3 rose lore later, in which i repurpose her and make her significantly less toxic and immensely more valid because honestly? "i got fed up of everyone asking me to save the world a million times over and locked msyelf in a pocket dimension where no one could bother me ever again" is an INCREDIBLE backstory